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Rotae ([personal profile] rotae) wrote2008-08-13 02:56 pm
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Enervate: to deprive of vigor, force, or strength; to render feeble; to weaken

*appropriate icon is appropriate* XDD

DUDE. So, I've been given The Forbidden Forest (Chapter 15 PS/SS) as my chapter for the HP Art Project, and I was just double checking heights and looks and stuff of Harry, Hermione, Draco and Neville, because that's who I'm drawing... and...

Did anyone realise that JKR said Neville is BLOND?!!

Ms. ROWLING: [...] Now, to me, Neville's short and plump and blond, but that's what's great about books. You know, she's just seeing something different. People bring their own imagination to it. They have to collaborate with the author on creating the world.


0.o WHUT?!

I HAVE BEEN SO BRAINWASHED BY THOSE MOVIES, MAN. LOLOL. I was SO SURE he was canon brunette. Srsly.

Oh and I was watching some M*A*S*H* the other day, and Colonel Potter (no less! LOL) said, "SILENCIO!!!" at one point!!!!!!!!! OMFGGGGGGG GEEK OVERLOAD XDDDDD

I swear these Chinese gymnasts are four years old, man, srsly. LOLOL.

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] masterofmystery.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Wait wait. WHAT! I don't remember reading that in the interviews ANYWHERE, and that was NEVER stated in the books. Hell, she even drew Neville out once and he had dark fucking hair.

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/images/jkr/duel.jpg

Where is that quote from? I don't believe it.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW, RIGHT?! HOW THE HELL DID WE MISS THIS ONE?!

http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2000/1000-npr-adler.htm

I always thought that was light brown in that picture, personally (that was the picture I looked for first today, LOLOL)

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] tellemonstar.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 05:50 am (UTC)(link)
OMG! *is brainwashed*

And I must say, I agree about those Chinese gymnasts. Most of them are my sister's age (9) or just slightly older. Definately not 16.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
I KNOW!!!!!!!! WTF, MAN?!?!! XDDDD

Holy crap, they're 16?!?!?! I thought they were like 12 and just looked young!! LOLOL. If I had to have a guess, I'd say the youngest one there would be 8 or 9 years old. Srsly. LOL XD

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] tellemonstar.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
They're supposed to be - 16 is 'supposed to be' the youngest age allowed to complete in the Olympics. Compared to the American girls who were all definitely 16 at least.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
Really? 16? Hmm. Interesting.

I just googled them, and apparently the New York Times is reporting that there is speculation (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/27/sports/olympics/27gymnasts.html) about their ages.

I wouldn't be surprised. I'd be far likely to believe that they're 14 and not 16.

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] tellemonstar.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah. Definatley not 16 year olds those girls.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
It kind of brings into question the idea of an age restriction. I mean, if they're breaking it anyway and no one really cares, why not just lift it?

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] tellemonstar.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I mean they all look my sisters age. I couldn't say with certainty.

[identity profile] hazy-crazy.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
LMAOOO I did hear that his canon hair is blonde. But I simply and outrageously REFUSE to write him with blonde hair or picture him with blonde hair. o______O I don't really like blonde guys you see haha but even so, dark hair suits him better. Seriously :/

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
... well, MATTHEW LEWIS looks better with darker hair, but he looks NOTHING like Neville these days, LOLOLOL :D

I don't fancy natural blonds either XD *high fives*

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] hazy-crazy.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
LOLOL yeah that's a good point XD I liked what they did with him in OOTP to make him more Nevillish. But Matt just keeps getting hotter and hotter :P But I imagine Neville in the 6th and 7th books to be a real cutie, so I like the first look of him for HBP :D

*high fives back* XDDD

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. Yeah, he's turning into a very handsome man. And Neville, while CUTE... I don't see as the ruggedly handsome type (like Matt is becoming).

But then, there's hardly one "child"!actor that still looks like their character, LOLOL.

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] hazy-crazy.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hhaha yeah, I know what you're saying. They'll be trying so hard to downplay his ridiculous good-looks ;D

LOL yeah, I reckon Ron's probably the only one maybe XD Don't get me started on Emma's Hermione o_O

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
0.o Ron? Srsly? LOLOL. I don't think that Rupert Grint looks ANYTHING like Ron XDDD Ron is skinny/gangly and TALL as all hell, LOL. Rupert is more muscley/thick and shorter than Tom Felton, LOLOL. XDDD

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] hazy-crazy.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
lmao I knew you'd say something like that :P

Well, he must be doing a good job because he's one of the only actors I see CLEARLY in my head (including his voice!) when I read the books XD

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. Am I that predictable? XDDDD

Ehhhh... >.> I'm on the side of not thinking that Rupert does a particularly brilliant job ^^; LOL. Maybe that's because I really like book!Ron and HATE movie!Ron, LOLOL :D

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] fernwithy.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
I swear these Chinese gymnasts are four years old, man, srsly. LOLOL.

Heh, no kidding. Sorry, but there are body and facial changes that come with puberty, and most of them haven't gotten there. Even slow development of curves isn't going to change the facial progression! (I don't know if you get any of our commentary down there, but Bela Karolyi was on with Bob Costas, and just said, absolutely matter-of-fact, "Oh, yes, of course, half the Chinese team is underage, but you can't prove it, so oh, well." He's against the age restriction in the first place and respected the team, but he just basically said, "Duh. Who do they think they're kidding?") It would be petty for another team to complain, and the time for the IOC to do it is over. I wouldn't want a medal that we'd only have by disqualifying the best competition, anyway.

JKR never described Neville as blond in the books, and the quote seems to imply that she doesn't care that much, so if you want a brunette Neville, I think it would work.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't realise it was a controversial issue until I googled it after this post, LOLOL. I didn't know there was an age restriction either 0.o I don't think I'd mind if there weren't an age restriction, but I haven't thought about it at all, so that might change, haha :D What do you think about it?

Yeah. I thought that too. But I'm sending this to JKR, so I'd like it to be as close to her vision as possible :D And I'm a blasphemer in the HP community in that I really couldn't give a tinker's toss one way or the other about Neville, so I don't care. LOLOLOL XDDDD

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] fernwithy.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think, to some extent, that they need to start aging the sport up, or give up and call it "girls' gymnastics." On the other hand, obviously, there's an advantage to being young.

Of course, the younger ages favor totalitarian countries with sports machines that pick up three year olds and start training them, so they're at their peak at thirteen or so. Take a country that can't enforce this and doesn't have the authority to just grab a kid, and training will start later. (This isn't just because the government can't do it by fiat--there's a different culture, which says that children perpetually have a choice, and toddlers don't have a naturally great attention span. By the time they're school age, we're more willing to say, "Hey, stick with it," but even then, we're more likely to let them out if they feel like it.)

My bigger problem in particular is that, arbitrary rule or not, some teams are following it and others aren't. Maybe we left a really talented thirteen-year-old at home. Maybe Japan did as well. Which means that China was using its entire resource pool for talent, while we restricted it.

[identity profile] svimmelhet.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
JKR is a crack smokin' ho. ....just saying.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
0.o LOLOLOL XDDDD

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] munanna.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ahahahhaha, I've been writing him as blond in my fics for years! At one point I was actually lectured by an angry reader that Neville was brunette, dammit, and how dare I change canon!!! XDDDD

(ofcourse, letting him be enthusiastically molested by Draco was completely canon.)

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
OH MAN! That must have been EPIC!! Did you BURN THEM with quotation? XDDDD

(of course!! :D)

Peace,
Rotae
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[personal profile] musyc 2008-08-13 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
Dudley's blond too, man! All these blonds in canon!

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL. YES! And Petunia! Go the blonds!! :D XDDD

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] cambryn.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
I always thought he was a dark blonde. :) That's always how I've drawn him- I thought it was canon, but couldn't find where it said that. :/

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd be erring on the darker side of blond. Actually! Kinda like Tom's natural colour? :D

It's not said in the books, but if you take JKR's word as canon, then it definitely is now :D

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] cesaretech.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Pansy's also described with blonde hair. I remember so long ago someone writing a big paper about how J.K. Rowling was trying to send a bad message about blond people (Draco, Pansy, Zacharias, Dudley), and even poor Neville was thrown in there (pre-DH). Yet, it hasn't stopped fanon from taking over his or Pansy's hair color.

Yeah, those Chinese girls have to be underage. We're not stupid, China.

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
0.o Really? I don't ever recall hearing Pansy's hair colour! Where'd you read/hear that?

Well, as a blonde myself, I can't say I mind having the Malfoys on our side XDDD

Srsly! They look 9 years old!

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] birdseyeview.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think Pansy is ever described in canon (or in interviews either) as being blonde. I think that was just popular fanon before POA came out.

[identity profile] opaleyes.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I think when I first drew him (way back in high school?) I gave him dark blonde hair. I'd forgotten about that! I do totally picture him as having dark brown hair now. Oh, Matthew Lewis, for you I will ignore canon. (Same with the Weasley twins, and how the Phelps are technically too skinny.)

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The only thing that I've ever managed to do like that, was when I drew the Slytherin boys and made Blaise black before HBP was released. And everyone was like, "BLAISE IS A GIRL WITH RED HAIR" and I was all, "Uhm... I couldn't care less!! Get stuffed!" XDDDD

Hmm. I don't think I'd be able to ignore canon 0.o Even for Tom :x D: LOLOLOL.

And yeah. The Phelps twins are way too skinny and tall to be the Weasley twins in canon. They're like Ron shaped and not Fred and George shaped XDDD

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] opaleyes.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee. Well, you know I like my boys tall and skinny, so I can't complain. XD I'm glad they traded for the movies.

[identity profile] lady-game.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
He's blonde? Weird. But I just read the comments... Petunia's blonde?! I've always seen her as a brunette!!

Hmm I could've sworn some of those Chinese girls look about 12 too. You have to remember though that Asians in general look young... I'm twenty and people constantly think I'm seventeenish. Which isn't that much of a difference I know, but it's about the difference between sixteen and twelve :) But yeah, one of the girls looks like she's eight. I didn't know there was an age limit!

[identity profile] rotae.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep. That's where Dudley gets his colouring from. She's clearly stated to be blonde :D Vernon has black hair :D

Oh, I know, don't get me wrong, I have heaps of Asian (admittedly Japanese and Malaysian) friends from college and they all look a lot younger than they are... but at least one of those girls looks to be 8-10 years old. At the most that'd mean she'd be 13 going by your guesstimate, LOL :D I wasn't aware there was a limit either! Go figure. LOL.

Peace,
Rotae

[identity profile] birdseyeview.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I did but I'm so used to seeing him with brown hair.

I get really confused when people show him with blond hair but thin that to me = Draco. (Or maybe Zacharias Smith.) I nearly flipped (not in a good way) when I saw a picture of some skinny, blond dude taking out Nagini but it turned out to be a rather skinny, anime-pointy Neville.

[identity profile] comedychick.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
For serious? I thought he was canon brunette too! Even when I recently did a re-read, I didn't pick up on that! I don't care, he's still brunette to me. :/

[identity profile] finchburg.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
The problem I have is that JKR gives all these interviews and questions are asked to "fill in the fanon gaps and spell everything out" and it just turns out to be a huge mess. Yes, learning Dumbles leads the parade is just a pain, but still very fabulous.

I've always pictured Pansy blonde because Draco is the child of perfect pureblood breeding and Lucius and Narcissa are both blond so it seems really logical that he would either be drawn to or told that he should get together with someone of the same hair color persuasion.

Now, all this interview ish also doesn't get digested properly and people forget how to read and are unable of applying what she says to what canon says.

For example, over in sorting someone mentioned on an application that children conceived under Love Potions make them incapable of love. BUZZZZ! Time out, that is never said in the books.

I questioned where they heard that from and they in turn quoted an interview where JKR says that the potion is symbolic. No matter what way you shake it Riddle grew up without a nurturing influence so why would he ever be able to understand/comprehend an emotion as complex and simple as love w/o that exposure? His mom never really knew love either, he was pretty much SOL from the start. But that can all be derived from canon, you don't need her clarification in an interview to get that. So all this extra stuff does nothing but muddy the waters.

Except for the question I asked her about what happens to the dark marks after Volde's defeat in the live chat after DH dropped. That is not fluff xD

[identity profile] vivid-memory.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Neville's BLONDE?!? Whaaat? How did I never hear about this before?

Oh my, the Chinese gymnasts do look really young. I know that not everyone looks the same at 16 and that gymnasts tend to be of smaller stature...but a few of them look like they're 10!

[identity profile] ani-bester.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
HELL YES! I was told for AGES that my blonde Neville was non cannical in my OOTP chapter illustration but HAHAHAHHAA
I was right

*dances*

[identity profile] mizzmoonyluver.livejournal.com 2008-08-13 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
LOLWUT.

...So basically he's Peter's brother from another mother?